Monday, February 4, 2008

Scorpio North Node, Taurus South Node


North Node Scorpio

The passionate Scorpio nature feels its way through life, sensing undercurrents and daring to look deeply to find the emotional bottom line. In order to move towards the heights of your Scorpio North Node you need to relax your concerns around money, security, and possessions as well as being willing to risk losing your current level of comfort to gain a higher state of power and vitality.

Can you leave behind tendencies to possessiveness and attachment and open up to the excitement of change? Will you dare to look deeply and bravely into the underworld, into 'the other side of the question' and into the places where the deepest level of truth reside? Superficial people pleasing is not for you---you are meant to look into the eyes of the murderer and find the frightened unloved child there. You are meant to know the whole story, and to travel the roads many of us declare unsafe.

The eagle, the phoenix, and the scorpion are the symbols of Scorpio, and the like the eagle you were meant to fly high and be powerful, and like the phoenix, you are meant to risk dying and being reborn--knowing you are a survivor. As you dare to delve into the mysteries of life, you come up with deep treasure.

The third symbol of the scorpion hints of the shadow side of this sign, which can see all aspects of truth, including that which is not always full of light and joy. The wisdom of the Scorpio nature evolves because it has dared to explore the dark, the taboo,, the unspoken, and then takes this ability to see and embrace the dark and transform it. It's a high calling and that's why North Node Scorpios are often the best doctors, healers, investigators, and friends to have in times of crisis.

Scorpios are the truth-tellers of the zodiac. In the old storybook tale it was probably a Scorpio who told the emperor he had no clothes on. Because you are good at delving into the minds of others, you can be intense, yet your Soul yearns to deeply relate to others and benefits by working in partnership. Let yourself explore and experience what sex, money, God, and politics can teach you. Go where others have not, and let yourself experience it all. Be brave, for like the cat with many lives, you too have many lives to live.

When you come to a turning point in the Scorpio-Taurus path you're ready to retrieve the gold in the shadow of your Taurus South Node. You can now relax into enjoying the fruit of your passions---for example, turn the grist from the mill of your life into something creative and pleasing. Have you ever tried singing or songwriting? (Taurus rules the throat and singing.) Or writing a mystery novel or screenplay? Own your experiences by creatively giving birth to something that is uniquely you.
~elizabeth spring: http://www.elizabethspring.com/

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Neith’s thoughts on the North Node in Scorpio

With a strong Scorpio influence in my chart – the Ascendant with Jupiter, Mars & Mercury in Scorpio – what Elizabeth is saying about the North Node in Scorpio rings true. It is one of the tougher Nodal positions to handle and I have seen few people with this Nodal axis express it well. Most will have moments where they experience the heights and depths inherent in Scorpio but admittedly it is a tough place to live, day in and day out. An astrologer friend of mine with this axis has done the best with this I have seen to date. She has slowly learned to find a balance with pushing herself to the limits, trimming her life style to the bone and yet learning to keep a few creature comforts to relax with.

If I look at the Scorpio/Taurus patterns in my life, I see years of being able to move quickly and easily because my possessions were few. In fact it wasn’t’ until I married at 44 yrs old, I owned anything of substance, i.e., land, vehicles, etc. I still live a very simple, frugal lifestyle with few frills. My computer and high-speed internet service are my main luxuries . . . that and buying books (well, I do have Libra!) Living in a rural area with a large yard and garden satisfy the Taurus need for simplicity and pleasure in being close to the Earth. Is this a key to living with the Taurus South Node? To live close the land while pursuing Scorpio North Node concerns?

Elizabeth describes Scorpio as the “truth tellers of the zodiac” and I very much agree with this too. May be why I learned to keep my thoughts to myself as a child because few want to hear the truth . . . I’m wondering if Scorpio discerns the truth behind the facades and Sagittarius blurts it out! We would love to hear the experiences of others living with this Nodal axis, if you can get past the Scorpio need for privacy and holding what you know close. ::grin::

18 comments:

Jessica said...

Thank you for this series-- it's wonderful.

My NN is at 21 Scorpio and I hardly know where to begin in describing my experience. Like Neith, my Sun was progressed into Scorpio for the first ~30 years and I also have Uranus in Scorpio. With the rest of my planets basically in air signs, I've previously never stopped to identify with my Scorpio experiences.

Here is what I can say: I have always had a strong urge to heal, or shall we say, maybe a quixotic belief that I can heal. I spent my entire life up until now trying to "heal" two very depressed Pisces, my mother and my husband. (Didn't work, but was educational.) I could say I've always been on the hunt for intense experiences, but the truth is they really seem to find me. Is there truth in saying the Scorpio NN drive leans toward drama and trauma? Those elements have certainly been present in my life. I like thinking of it as a need to search for truth. As a child I was very interested in the occult (clairvoyance, all kinds of paranormal activity like spontaneous combustion and psychokinesis and stuff.) I couldn't get enough of the Ouija board. I was fascinated by the strange and dark parts of the Grimm's Fairy Tales, and especially Hans Christian Andersen, who wrote Scorpio stories if I've ever read any. Perhaps Scorpio NN is behind that. In any case, I now have to give thought to what the best expression of this NN might be. Thanks for the discussion.

Anonymous said...

I have NN Scorpio at 28 degrees square natal Pluto with a 2 degree orb, and Scorpio rising! To say I have lived on the other side is very true. I also didn't own anything until much later in life and lived with my dreams, premonitions, visions, mystical experiences and the Silent Voice since the beginning. The other dimension, and Mother Nature, have been the most important realities for me and I have never made small talk with ANYONE. Every conversation includes the nitty gritty, the truth, the reasons, the implication of mortality. Nothing breezy here, except with libra moon and other indications, I do get to express the pathos in creativity...

Devil Mood said...

Another interesting nodal post :)

I have 3 planets in Scorpio so this isn't an alien theme for me. I laughed when you suggested it was a scorpio that told the emperor he had no clothes on.

And Neith, if Scorpio finds the truth and Sagittarius blurts it out (sounds true), I think Libra is still very undecided about which part is true and which isn't ;)

Anonymous said...

I have my NN at 23 Scorpio in the 4th house. I am an entertainer among other things but one of my first ambitions was to be a detective. When I get obsessed with something I dig all the way to China. I love doing research as much as I love performing. However, that darn SN in Taurus in the 10th house keeps me in a "steady" day job (my excuse is I need to pay the mortgage) and to add to the frustration I have no planets in any cardinal signs kicking my butt into action. Most of my chart is in fixed signs with a little mutable.

Besides playing music I read Tarot cards and I do a darn good job because my goal is to help people, not to scare them or to show them how good I am at it. I am going to start taking an astrology class later this month. That should keep my NN occupied while my SN slogs along at that mind-numbing day job.

One thing I wonder about is that 4th house placement. I bought my first condo in 2000, then in '04 I sold it at a profit and bought a house. I have never identified with my family or even country of origin (I have Saturn in my 4th house) but I sure love having a house of my own. I was scared to buy it, but I did it anyway.

elizabeth spring said...

Hi Jessica, Anonymous & devil Moon~ Good to hear from you! Yes, I do think the Scorpio NN can lean towards drama, because as a radical truth teller and communicator you stir things up and press people's buttons. Buttons that often need to be pressed! And Libra does get indecisive at times because she sees the truth in both points of view and struggles with the paradoxical nature of Truth. And let's not forget the gold in the SN of Taurus which would include great peace and enjoyment in all Venus/Taurus things---like owning your own home. Isn't it interesting how every sign resonates so strongly with its polar opposite? And how every sign has a higher and lower expression? And yet I hate to hear myself say "higher and lower" because my Libra Sun says there's something judgmental about that...and who am I to say what is what? Interesting how we attempt to 'read the mind of God' in astrology, and yet it's all wrapped in mystery....what do you think??? And you Neith, fellow Libra? ~elizabeth

Anonymous said...

This is my node configuration. I know that from the outside people think I'm living that detachment very well, but I know on the inside I have a very long way to go after 50 years.

I am wondering if you have any insight on retrograde nodes. If it's covered elsewhere in your sites I would be interested in reading that (my nn is retrograde). Thanks.

elizabeth spring said...

Hi Anonymous~
All nodes are retrograde because they all travel that way in our charts! They are naturally retrograde...naturally perhaps because they are an inner process......~elizabeth

mm said...

Thank you for this, Elizabeth (and Neith). Beautiful. Having North Node in 8th - though not in Scorpio - I resonate very much to what has been written here, particularly Elizabeth's first and third paras.

I will be returning to re-read this I know.

Anonymous said...

I have NN in Libra but it is in the 8th house.

Does this mean that i have a libra NN or a scorpio NN??

Just confused :)
Could you please explain?

elizabeth spring said...

Anonymous~ OK--N.Node in Libra in the 8th house is still a Libra NN, but the area, the place, the environment, in which the your 'North Star' Libra is operating is in that 8th house where transformative, mysterious, sexual, legal, and situations involving others money and values hit home to you. There is a big difference really and too many people and writers have tried to lump the sign and house together to make it "easier" but it's not the way it is! Just have to stretch your imagination a little more to see how you might bring Libra values into 8th house scenarios....really a rather good placement because of the concern for fairness and seeing both sides of an issue.....hope this helps. And later on, I think it would help to talk about transiting nodes....~till then~elizabeth

Anonymous said...

hi,
I have my SN in Taurus in my 8th house and my NN Scorpio in my 2nd House.
I also have a natal sun-conjunct pluto in my 1st house (SUN, MARS & PLUTO all in Libra in the 1st as well) and I have my natal URANUS, VENUS, MOON in my 2nd houses

and I find many contradictions with myself...

I do the whole believing in my truth bit by following my artistic ambitions, yet at the cost of little material benefits, - but I do feel my SN Taurus perhaps keeps me logged into a battle by trying to achieve a level of material security within the artists world by never giving up within this creative world....

- with my sun conjunct pluto, I feel this also adds fuel to the fire and the persistent of "never giving up until I have achieved this financial success"...

I also have my saturn in my 11th house, so this i feel adds a need to achieve within my artistic world, that bit more emphasised perhaps??

right now I have saturn transits my 12th house and I feel I am dying and being reborn and being asked to detach myself from my past. Having spent the last 9 years of my life slaving away artistically - I feel my rewards should arrive, though after my first solar return just completing, I am being asked I believe to drop all expectations.

I think a major lesson with all this is perhaps to learn that sometimes the rewards are in the 'doing' of a process and that the buddist mentality of having no expectations is one of great weight. It is also the great paradox of when you give up all expectation from doing that you receive your reward.

Hmmm.... just wanted to add all that.... I'm not an astrologer, but having Scorpio my moon, venus and uranus in scorpio and sun conjunct pluto in the 1st - I do delve into the metaphyscial realms... and just wanted to share my experience...

not sure how accurate my definitions are... so any help here in clarifying some of this stuff would help (moon in 2nd - touch of doubting myself perhaps?) :))

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much elizabeth for your kind help! :)

Anonymous said...

hey,
this follows on from the previous posting, its the same blogger again... (btw - apart from the previous anom, I have never posted on here, just to seperate me from any other 'anom') - I have to add that upon further research I read

"If the NN is in the 8th house, and SN in the 2nd, it works much like having the NN in Scorpio and SN in Taurus. However, if NN is in the 2nd and SN is in the 8th, then it’s more like NN in Taurus and SN in Scorpio, except that the signs are the qualities with which we approach the affairs of the houses in question. The signs are our biases; the houses are the arenas of life where we do our sign thang"


I simply had to add this, as it resonates a lot more with me...and helps me to understand things more clearly - esp with 3 of my natal planets in my 2nd....

the learning for me it seems is rather to provide my own security through my sense of well being... so in essence I am working with both aspects of the whole SN/NN 2/8th houses....

This is also of special interest for me within the whole metaphysical realm, as I am learning that it doesnt matter how hard and persistently you work, if your inner self (inner confidence/beliefs) do not believe you are worthy, then this will be represented within the material world...

so in fact it is like dropping the solid base for the unknown, yet learning through the unknown that the solid is build through confidence and ones self...!?!?

so in fact all in all it all fits together in a weird puzzle!!.... like a circle..!!

I just wondered if anyone else with a NN is in the 2nd and SN in the 8th has experienced this strange contradiction?

Anonymous said...

oh!... while i posted this, the previous anom posted again... so when I refer to 'previous post', I mean previous to previous post..!!!

i guess thats the problem with 'anom'... theres more than one :)))

elizabeth spring said...

Hi Anonymous'! Thanks for posting...yes, I like saying that the house is the arena or area of life where the action is happening, and the sign is the qualities. Ah....and I don't feel that I can do a good analysis of a chart, with Nodes, unless I see the whole picture; the whole chart. And that is what I do for a living! I spend hours talking about it with a client, so it just feels overwhelming for me to try to post a detailed response.....
More later~ elizabeth

victoria said...

Hi, Elisabeth,
and thank you for the interesting and inspiring article on Scorpio in North Node!

I also have my SN in Taurus in my 8th house and my NN Scorpio in my 2nd House. I agree with anonymous that: 'the learning for me it seems is rather to provide my own security through my sense of well being'.

But still the contradiction of signs and houses confuses me. So if you could say something to make it clearer to me, I would much appreciate it!:)

Anonymous said...

This is so great to read.
I am a NN in Scorpio, and SN in Taurus, but I'm confused about it, since my NN is also in the 4th house....
So my NN in Scorpio is the one that gives me that yearning for travel, adventure, intensity... For instance, I would love to live in another country, and travel from place to place and so on. But my NN placement in the 4th house tells me otherwise! Tells me that I should find my roots in my own country... So I'm confused here... travel or not travel, live somewhere else, or put more attention at home?

Also, my SN is in Taurus in 10th house.... If somebody could give me some light on this... Thanks

elizabeth spring said...

HI Anonymous! You have a valid question here, and this is where there are no quick answers---this is where the art of a chart reading comes into play...we'd have to look at what's in your 9th house? What does the whole chart look like and yet keeping in mind that the house positions are the weakest thing in the chart....and that the 4th house has to do with HOME in a very broad way...it also has to do with your personal mythology...how you tell the story of your life. In truth, I believe that you need to have a reading that synthesizes all the parts...including aspects and rulers of the Nodes. ~ elizabeth